Comments on: Carry on Tradition…?

By: Lester

Lester — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 06:01:00 +0000

How did either inform the proceedings? If your dissertation were based on this, how would you test this proposition? Be as clear as you can about causal flows. I think when you really try hard to operationalize such statements as “their presence did serve to inform the process” you’ll find you cannot.

By: Lester

Lester — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 06:01:00 +0000

By: Dumi

Dumi — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:25:00 +0000

Lester-
I agree the steam was already rolling but in both cases there presence did serve to inform the process. The day before Sharpton in scheduled to do a conference down there, she’s released. Jackson’s folk do a protest outside of NBC in Chicago, then they’re is the meeting with execs, Imus pulled. The steam was rolling, but the outcomes seem unequivocally affected by their ability to bring the traditional media attention to it.

By: Dumi

Dumi — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:25:00 +0000

Lester- I agree the steam was already rolling but in both cases there presence did serve to inform the process. The day before Sharpton in scheduled to do a conference down there, she’s released. Jackson’s folk do a protest outside of NBC in Chicago, then they’re is the meeting with execs, Imus pulled. The steam was rolling, but the outcomes seem unequivocally affected by their ability to bring the traditional media attention to it.

By: Lester

Lester — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:45:00 +0000

note that the last two flashpoint events (shaquanda cotton and don imus) occur largely separate from jackson/sharpton protest activities. in fact in both cases they are late to the party--the steam is already rolling.

i think the last time that "leaders" like them were needed was in the early twentieth century. and arguably not even then.

By: Lester

Lester — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:45:00 +0000

note that the last two flashpoint events (shaquanda cotton and don imus) occur largely separate from jackson/sharpton protest activities. in fact in both cases they are late to the party–the steam is already rolling.i think the last time that “leaders” like them were needed was in the early twentieth century. and arguably not even then.

By: Flat-Out

Flat-Out — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:00:00 +0000

All it takes is 4 brothers from a little college in North Carolina, to start a whole Civil Rights movement.

The 1960 lunch-counter sit-ins, which spread everywhere:

http://americanhistory.si.edu/Brown/history/6-legacy/freedom-struggle-2.html

What could four U-M students, who sit in some place with TV cameras, start off?

It's not my place to say...

...But I'd demand, you know, 100% open admissions, at U-M Ann Arbor, for every single brother and sistr who graduates from 12th grade, from any place in Michigan.

4 brothers and sisters;
1 TV camera.

That's almost enough to start something.

With no apologies for being fool enough to believe it,

By: Flat-Out

Flat-Out — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:00:00 +0000

All it takes is 4 brothers from a little college in North Carolina, to start a whole Civil Rights movement.The 1960 lunch-counter sit-ins, which spread everywhere:http://americanhistory.si.edu/Brown/history/6-legacy/freedom-struggle-2.htmlWhat could four U-M students, who sit in some place with TV cameras, start off?It’s not my place to say……But I’d demand, you know, 100% open admissions, at U-M Ann Arbor, for every single brother and sistr who graduates from 12th grade, from any place in Michigan.4 brothers and sisters;1 TV camera.That’s almost enough to start something.With no apologies for being fool enough to believe it,