And I wish more folks realized this:
“The reality is that the forms of oppression are related so working on them simultaneously is necessary.”

YES! Which is why, again, you should attend the US Social Forum :-P

And I wish more folks realized this:
“The reality is that the forms of oppression are related so working on them simultaneously is necessary.”

YES! Which is why, again, you should attend the US Social Forum :-P

And I wish more folks realized this:
“The reality is that the forms of oppression are related so working on them simultaneously is necessary.”

YES! Which is why, again, you should attend the US Social Forum :-P

The second question was: How do the authors of Patriarchy Heteronormativity and Misogyny define the Black Male/Female relationship and how does the creator of Marriage define the Black Male/Female relationship?

If the wives & girlfriends of the black men who attended the Million Man March didn’t and don’t feel oppressed, by the men who went home & actually tried to live out the principle & program of the day and message, then everyone else’s opinion is as inconsequential as a white person saying they have a problem with the message that was delivered to black men on that day.

The “commitment to eradicating the ideology of domination that permeates Western culture” is being undermined by women who attack the efforts of black men toward self-determination, self-correction and a realignment of our higher self with the Most High One for the benefit of the black man woman and child aka The Entire Black Family.

Just my two cents though.

I end up with a similar conclusion – I respect and support the project, though from what I hear feminism (possibly in the academy) is trying to gain some sort of identity, as there’s French, Black, 1st-3rd waves, anarchist, etc.

But you know what? Sheftall may have had a point but I still think there was merit behind it all – the MMM probably did enforce patriarchy and the like, but I don’t think it was as explicit as she may have made it seem. Maybe the speakers like Farrakhan went towards a patriarchal slant, but the project, from what I remember, was an attempt to call to order Black men to go do right by their communities – not go be patriarchs and misogynistic. The message may have been garbled behind the BS, but that’s what I pulled from the MMM (I was a young lad when it happened so I don’t remember too too much). But perhaps she’d say the same thing to me – I just think the aim of the project may have gotten washed over by it all.

Sometimes we find it difficult to work for a mission with which we don’t connect personally, which leads us to over-personalize any social justice work in which we’re involved. I like your use of the term “ally” here as I’ve seen it used in other places (namely gay rights) and it conveys a sense of “togetherness” vs. “sameness”; its like the difference between “sympathy” and “empathy”.

The second question was: How do the authors of Patriarchy Heteronormativity and Misogyny define the Black Male/Female relationship and how does the creator of Marriage define the Black Male/Female relationship?

If the wives & girlfriends of the black men who attended the Million Man March didn't and don't feel oppressed, by the men who went home & actually tried to live out the principle & program of the day and message, then everyone else's opinion is as inconsequential as a white person saying they have a problem with the message that was delivered to black men on that day.

The “commitment to eradicating the ideology of domination that permeates Western culture” is being undermined by women who attack the efforts of black men toward self-determination, self-correction and a realignment of our higher self with the Most High One for the benefit of the black man woman and child aka The Entire Black Family.

Just my two cents though.

I end up with a similar conclusion – I respect and support the project, though from what I hear feminism (possibly in the academy) is trying to gain some sort of identity, as there's French, Black, 1st-3rd waves, anarchist, etc.

But you know what? Sheftall may have had a point but I still think there was merit behind it all – the MMM probably did enforce patriarchy and the like, but I don't think it was as explicit as she may have made it seem. Maybe the speakers like Farrakhan went towards a patriarchal slant, but the project, from what I remember, was an attempt to call to order Black men to go do right by their communities – not go be patriarchs and misogynistic. The message may have been garbled behind the BS, but that's what I pulled from the MMM (I was a young lad when it happened so I don't remember too too much). But perhaps she'd say the same thing to me – I just think the aim of the project may have gotten washed over by it all.

Sometimes we find it difficult to work for a mission with which we don't connect personally, which leads us to over-personalize any social justice work in which we're involved. I like your use of the term “ally” here as I've seen it used in other places (namely gay rights) and it conveys a sense of “togetherness” vs. “sameness”; its like the difference between “sympathy” and “empathy”.